New Songs!!!!!!!!!

[Neon]

check at roadrun (http://www.roadrun.com)
INSIDE THE HORROR rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Severity]

holy fuck :D

[Womb Suffocation]

wow.. fucking awesome. gotta love eCards :D. I can't fucking wait another month for this shit.

[Severity]

i heard save ourselvs before. so that wasnt a suprise. but inside the horror was a fucking cracker.

[satan's wizard]

man,those solos are the shit.

[Womb Suffocation]

i heard save ourselvs before. so that wasnt a suprise. but inside the horror was a fucking cracker.

same here. ITH is fucking genius. there's also some pretty sweet photos there if you haven't checked em out.

[Severity]

already uploaded on the site man ;) http://chimairaworld.com/site/pictures.php?pictures=promo2005

as for the wallpapers. i cvant be fucked to do them tonight. will do them tommorow.

[spooner666]

aghhhhhhhhhhh stupid dia up its only loading now!!!!!

[Sevaloco_Nick]

I was waiting for an Ecard lol. Awesome man!
Save Ourselves plods on a bit i think. Inside The Horror is better though, i remember it being brutal live. Damn right awesome solos.

[Captain YoYo's]

Wow, just wow, when I heard Nothing Remains, I had my doubts about this album. But by the sounds of these other 2, this is going to be album of the year, just over a month away now (H)

[Malakian105]

See what I mean guys? :D

[spooner666]

im half way through save ourselves and it is fucking bad ass!

i also noticed they seem to be using black and white photos for the promo which i like allot!

[Sepultallica9]

Save Ourselves hyped me up more for the album. Good song.
Inside The Horror just fucking rips. I can't describe it, it's just monstrous. Wow.

[Eddie]

fuck this is awesome. Nothing Remains disappointed me, but these other two songs have redeemed that song

[spooner666]

inside the horror is a demon of a song!

now i cant wait for the album, just over a month!!!!!

[Eddie]

im capturing em to mp3. severity, drop me a pm if you want to host it (my host cant take too much bandwith)

[ChimairaFan88]

...........Im fucking blown away this is gonna be one hell of an album

[Eddie]

answer your pm's severity...

[ChimairaFan88]

I have made a rip of them aswell they sound pretty good quality-wise but song wise they fucking rule love the intro of save ourselves

[kaostik]

fucking badass. it has way more of a classic sound to it all, fused with chimmy elements. i love it. inside the horror has the best ending to a chimaira song, i think.

[Peyj]

Save Ourselves is badass so far. Can't wait for ITH O_O

[Shaky]

*headbangs* fuck yeah! these two new songs are fuckin insane. damn good stuff right here

[chimaira_kid]

i can't fuckin wait any L O N G E R!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHH

Rob's solos are tha shit!

[ChimairaFan88]

I cant stop listening to them ARRGGGGGGHHHHHHH

[dtsheist]

fuck me i can't breathe..that was awesome

when i saw the thread name i thought oh yeah more bullshit....meh nothing better to look at and BAM! thanks for the heads up!

[dixectional]

The shit is tight.

http://www.chimaira.com/chimaira/1.swf
http://www.chimaira.com/chimaira/2.swf
http://www.chimaira.com/chimaira/3.swf

[Neon]

i really like Inside The Horror, sav ourselves is good but, Inside The Horror rules!!!!!!!!!!

[EvilPie]

Fuck they rule

[dixectional]

Ripped :)

[Eddie]

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0VLXYUJ91HU9U0RJWOHKPASVX7

here you go cunts

[dixectional]

I dunno if you resampled them or my rip program sucked the donkey dick..but mine were considerably lower in file size.

[Neon]

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0VLXYUJ91HU9U0RJWOHKPASVX7

here you go cunts

thanks man!

[Eddie]

i ripped em at 96 bitrate mp3. quality of the flash files are probably lower

[dixectional]

My rip is like 3.7MB for all 3 songs, lol.

[Bleak]

I'm confused, these songs fucken thrash>slayer style! I loved Nothing Remains, maybe i just need to listen to the other 2 more, these songs are heavy as and will be awesome but i think that Chimaira could have written better tunes. Robs solo's have improved a lot, Save Ourselves is kinda average but Inside The Horror kills. Still can't wait for this savin up all my pennies for this album.

[Asphyxiated.]

Eddie, you fucking ROCK man. i don't even care if they aren't full quality, i want to get them on my mp3 player.

i'm likin the new stuff. can't wait for the album to hit streets!!

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

I think Inside The Horror is the best one :) and thanx a bunch eddie these are going on my mp3 player.

[fuct666]

fuck this is awesome. Nothing Remains disappointed me, but these other two songs have redeemed that song

Yeah!

Nothing Remains is a piece of shit compared to these other songs.

Also i am guessing the intro to the e-card is screen shots from the Nothing Remains video.

[cody_a64]

those songs fucking owned pure ass. cant wait to see them again..

[Sengh]

wow this is the shiiz.
inside the horror was pure ownage
save ourselves was awesome to but inside the horror O_O

[StMoolah]

Worst shit ive ever heard.
What the fuck was that. I wanted to fall asleep, then the solos came in and i fucking laughed? What the hell was that? Talk about forced solo's, everything seems like there trying to change to a degree where its just turns the actual music to shit.
I know im gonna yelled at for saying this, but that stuff has not impressed me whatsoever and im scared this album is going to completley suck.

[Bleak]

....u crazy man, u crazy. but i sorta agree, they ARE NOT shit songs but they do lag a bit, i can't really see whats so epic about them. Good music but i have heard it all before, i was kinda expecting more from Chimaira. Either way im still gonna buy this album first day it comes out cuz there is no way that this is bad music.

[Womb Suffocation]

The shit is tight.

http://www.chimaira.com/chimaira/1.swf
http://www.chimaira.com/chimaira/2.swf
http://www.chimaira.com/chimaira/3.swf

is something supposed to happen when I click these, cuz I'm not seein it.

[Sevaloco_Nick]

'Save the target as' to hear em, they are flash's though. I ripped mine straight to mp3. It doesn't matter what quality you have you will never get better than what you hear on the ecard.

[illphill]

Worst shit ive ever heard.
What the fuck was that. I wanted to fall asleep, then the solos came in and i fucking laughed? What the hell was that? Talk about forced solo's, everything seems like there trying to change to a degree where its just turns the actual music to shit.
I know im gonna yelled at for saying this, but that stuff has not impressed me whatsoever and im scared this album is going to completley suck.

thats what i was thinking.....i was waiting for this album soo bad and now i dont even want to hear the rest of it....im so disappointed..... :(

[This_is_my_life]

Give it a chance guys! Remember what Mark said about you may not like it as much when you first hear it. You probably just need to get used to it and then you'll realise that this album is going to fucking rule!
I thought these songs were brilliant and i cant wait for this album to come out!!

[Shaky]

this album will be no different than most, if i a band tries something new people are undoubtedly goin to say they dont like it. youll always have that. i love what im hearin and thats all i give a damn bout

[StMoolah]

This is not anything new. This just new for Chimaira.
Generic Riffs. Forced Solos which fuck up the dynamic of a song. No wait, theres more, Another breakdown. Whoa! Oh and now death metal drums?
This album so far seems just way to forced.

"You cannot force inspirado"

[Shaky]

thats your opinion, glad you have it. Ill stick with mine though, seein as it best fits me.

[fuct666]

thats your opinion, glad you have it. Ill stick with mine though, seein as it best fits me.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1478/137245482l4om.jpg

[StMoolah]

That picture is fucking class!

[Strait_Up]

When I first herd Nothing Remains I was shocked because it sounded so different and wasn't what I was expecting but I gave it a chance and listoned to it a few more times and ended up fucking loving it! I love these two aswell and I don't think they sound forced at all, it's a step forward for them and like the band and many other people have said, don't expect another TIOR. I love it and the people who don't like it but are still gonna buy it the day it comes i'm sure you'll end up loving it 'couse it seems like an album that would really grow on you if you didn't like it straight away.

[StMoolah]

Im sorry, No amount of people saying "it will grow on you" can change bad forced solos.
I wasnt expecting TIOR II Electric Boogaloo, but i wasnt expecting to hear rushed out of place songs in efforts to look METAHL!

[Sevaloco_Nick]

Why are you stressing the fact that they are ''forced''? Im not being argumentative i just wanna know what you mean. Are you saying the the song has been shaped to fit a long solo in it, that sounds tacky, when it doesn't need it? basically?
I think the solos sound really good in places, and sound tacky in tiny parts. But then again some solos on TIOR were like that.
I like the 2 songs but it hasn't made me want the album more than i did...put it that way. Not overly ''stoked'' on these songs just yet. They're definately not shit though.

[StMoolah]

Im not saying the song has been shaped to put a solo in it, Im in fact saying nearly the opposite
Im saying the song is going in another direction and they have just ploped a solo in there so some people go "SOLOS!!!!1111Eleven!!one!!!Exclimationmark!1!!"
It would be like putting solos in St Anger.

[fuct666]

but i wasnt expecting to hear rushed out of place songs in efforts to look METAHL!
I agree with this about Nothing Remains, the guitaring suprised me as it was such simple guitar work. I was expecting in your face "full blown ass riping metal". I must say i prefer "Save Ourselves" to "Inside The Horror".

ITH reminds me of another song..but i dont remember the name of it. And i hate solos anyway so i wont comment on them.

[Strait_Up]

Blar Blar Blar
In the wise words of Mr. Hunter, if you don't like it go fuck yourself!

[destroyer_of_senses]

im loving them. theyre metal, but unique and different. refreshing listens, but its a lot to take in right now.

[Shaky]

no amount of you guys bitching whining and getting your panties in a twist about this is gonna change anything so just give it a fuckin rest

[Strait_Up]

Then bugger off!

[destroyer_of_senses]

Im sorry, No amount of people saying "it will grow on you" can change bad forced solos.
I wasnt expecting TIOR II Electric Boogaloo, but i wasnt expecting to hear rushed out of place songs in efforts to look METAHL!

its your opinion. but an opinion is like an asshole, everybody has one, and its full of shit. youve maybe listened to it twice, listen more, they arent forced, they take you by suprise. well, thats how i feel anyway.

[Peyj]

http://qcom.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p1174801reg.jpg

Can't please all the people all the time, and last night all those people were at my show!

[Eddie]

RIP



i personally think some of the solos are pretty crap

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

I like em....

[StMoolah]

Guys, Im not saying my words are gonna solve world peace, world hunger, me getting some pussy or some bad solos.
But im not just gonna 'bugger off' because i dont like three fucking tracks.

I sware, Fucking nutswingers, you give everything a bad name.

[fuct666]

Blar Blar Blar
In the wise words of Mr. Hunter, if you don't like it go fuck yourself!

This is our opinions. You all say how good they are, but to everything good there is always a downside. Now live with everyones opinions.

Im sure the guys appreciate any feedback, but come on..Nothing Remains IS weak compared to the 2 others.

[destroyer_of_senses]

weak? the power of that track is immeasurable.

[fuct666]

What can i say. I just dont feel that track is good. Im sure its far better live, like alot of other stuff is.

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

I honestly cant find a "weak" part anywhere so i dont know what the fuck Stmoolah is bitching about.

[Strait_Up]

This is our opinions. You all say how good they are, but to everything good there is always a downside. Now live with everyones opinions.

Im sure the guys appreciate any feedback, but come on..Nothing Remains IS weak compared to the 2 others.

No part of the album is weak and i'm sure the guys would like some feedback but all people who don't like it have said is that it's shit or weak, I think they could go without idiots saying that.

[destroyer_of_senses]

What can i say. I just dont feel that track is good. Im sure its far better live, like alot of other stuff is.
oh well, yeah, i mean its definately subjective. If I came across as "angry" i didnt mean to, cos it can sometimes be difficult without speech.

[Eddie]

you guys need to stop brown nosing the band members

i bet if they record a sample of jim taking a dump, you guys will claim it as the best thing to happen to music since beethoven

[Beekay]

I think its awesome!!!!

[EvilPie]

I like these solos better than the Nothing Remains one. These actually somewhat go with the song and don't bore me and make me change the song when I get to it.

But what I would like... Mark I know you're probably reading these! Well it would be awesome if you could post the lyrics for these two songs.

[Malakian105]

Wow, so many negative comments.

Im not going to set upon spouting shit to all of you because I respect your opnion.
In my opinion Nothing Remains took a few listens for me to fully appreciate but now It's just fucking insane...So immense and the solo fits perfectly.

All three of these songs are immense and I know Im going to love the album.

[EvilPie]

Wow, so many negative comments.

Im not going to set upon spouting shit to all of you because I respect your opnion.
In my opinion Nothing Remains took a few listens for me to fully appreciate but now It's just fucking insane...So immense and the solo fits perfectly.

All three of these songs are immense and I know Im going to love the album.

I love Nothing Remains too. The solo just dosen't do it for me though

[Malakian105]

I love Nothing Remains too. The solo just dosen't do it for me though
That's fair enough. I have to say no matter how amazing an solo on the new album is, It just won't beat the solo on 'Eyes of a Criminal'. That just grips me every time. Takes my breath away.

[Asphyxiated.]

i think st. moolah has made his point and needs to STFU thats what i think.

and the new tracks are good.

[Tom]

im amazed there is as much negative feedback as there is. oh well though, your loss if you feel that way. these songs are fucking sweet. the solo on inside the horror, FUCK!

[javiINFLAMES]

To be really honest, most of you have seen my posts in the 'Nothing Remains' thread, and I was pretty excited. 'Nothing Remains' owned and still owns my fucking ass, it is a fantastic song. The people who have heard it were saying that the other songs were better than NR and I just couldn't believe such a thing. I mean, if that were true, we were going to see the best metal CD in the past decade. My anticipation grew more.

Now hearing these two songs, I am agreeing completely with St. Moolah.. plain and simple. These songs are pretty horrible. The riffs are pretty much played out and generic, and Kevin sounds really 'bleh' *sobs*. "Can you feel this"?? How is that a step-up from TIOR in the lyric department?? I cannot judge the album on those two songs, and I won't. But so far, my anticipation has fallen drastically. I feel a really bad gut feeling. In short, these songs are just """""""epic""""""" metal for easily-entertained metalheads.

I hope they prove me wrong in a month with the rest of the songs.

During 'Inside The Horror', the backing riff during the solo, they should have done something else with that riff. When I first heard that riff when Matt was recording it [the "MFA" video], I thought it was one of the most heaviest, brutal, nastiest, most harsh riff I have ever heard. It still is, but they could have done a small section with that riff, cause it absolutely slays. Instead, they put it behind that horrible solo, that EVH and Randy Rhoads pulled off years ago in their sleep, and instead use other played out breakdowns.

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH. Bitchy fucking people today god if you dont like it thats fine but quit bitching on and on about it.

[destroyer_of_senses]

you guys need to stop brown nosing the band members

i bet if they record a sample of jim taking a dump, you guys will claim it as the best thing to happen to music since beethoven

shut up. because we like the songs we are automatically sucking up? by your own logic then, you must hate the band.

[javiINFLAMES]

These are my opinions [holy shit, sherlocks. *sarcasm*]. If you don't agree with them, don't whine about it, bro. Just because mine was different from most of the people here, doesn't allow me to post them. Chill out, bro.

[MuCkO]

I've been listening to these songs for 2 days now, and all i can say is those 3 songs smoke TIOR..
I always prefered POOE over TIOR, but this stuff is just insane !
Cant wait for the whole album...

[StMoolah]

Ha, Look at all the people just saying where bitching because we dont fucking like it.
Jesus there just alternating opinions.
However...i dont know how any person can like those solos. im hesitant to say "can you play guitar" cause it doesnt really matter, i can see how people can like the songs as a whole, but the solos. i just cant see how anybody can like em.

[stranglehold]

I have not downloaded it yet, I went to the site and I cannot find any new songs, what is the deal is it an E-card to hear the new ones?????????

[Strait_Up]

Ha, Look at all the people just saying where bitching because we dont fucking like it.
Jesus there just alternating opinions.
However...i dont know how any person can like those solos. im hesitant to say "can you play guitar" cause it doesnt really matter, i can see how people can like the songs as a whole, but the solos. i just cant see how anybody can like em.

We get the fucking point! The songs suck and the solos are shit, you don't have to keep telling us. :@

I would really like to see you do better, it would be a good laugh!

[RoS]

They are fucking different but thats what it's all about, Chimaira just rose to a new level with Inside The Horror it's just metal as they come, Heavy, Dark, LOUD!!! makes me want to cut loose.

Can't wait!! BTW Eddie love the avatar and Sig ;)

[stranglehold]

Its Not Rap That Is The Only Thing That Matters

[Catch 33]

You guys should check out some new MESHUGGAH!!!, it's better \m/

http://www.nuclearblast.de/media/NB_1311.ram

[Severity]

Catch 33 Shut up your going a bit to far with this Meshuggah crap. Just cut it out,.

[Catch 33]

You people just need to accept the fact that Meshuggah are better than Chimaira. Saying Chimaira are better than Meshuggah is like saying Static-X are better than Pantera!

[fuct666]

im amazed there is as much negative feedback as there is. oh well though, your loss if you feel that way. these songs are fucking sweet. the solo on inside the horror, FUCK!

How is it our loss? Its our opnion.

[Severity]

You people just need to accept the fact that Meshuggah are better than Chimaira. Saying Chimaira are better than Meshuggah is like saying Static-X are better than Pantera!Personel opninion.. And the fact that this being a chimmy board. More people will agre chimaira are better than meshuggah

[Happy Time Harry]

Don't get me wrong. I love the songs. But I also find myself getting bored at times. I myself do want some songs like "Pure Hatred" and "Power Trip" on the album. Just something that I can scream and pump my fist to at their shows. Hopefully this album has those songs.

[Spineglass]

Holy fuck those new songs are REALLY amazing!! can't stop listeninge to them!! i love the new songs!

[vap0r]

maybe my musical tastes have changed, but this shit isnt amazing me at all. just another chimaira album

[QuoVadis]

no offense to anyone but i have the new meshuggah album and it sucks. its reptitive and boring. and the fact the drums arent real makes me cringe. i'm not that big on them anyways but it did suck. but thats my opinon. i say if you want good meshuggah listen to DEI or Nothing.
now onto the new chimiria the tracks are great. don't sound forced to me at all. i know the riffs aren't technical or anything but what does it matter if its technical. the songs are jsut good. obviously its nothing new but what is. it's not new but its good. thats all that matters to me. i'm digging thsi stuff alot more that TIOR too. and i pretty dislike the whole NWOAHM thing. i find lamb of god boring, way to bland and generic, shadows fall's aren't pretty boring too, besides most of 'of one blood' album. slipknots too cheesy for me. chimaira is about the only band from this new genre of metal i'm enjoying

[NumbereDAZE]

please take offense to me saying meshuggah sucks donkey sack compared to chimaira, meshuggah is right up there with the rag I use to wipe my ball sweat

[goodking]

The quality sucks but the new songs are amazing - can't wait for the album now.

Nothing Remains & Inside The Horror are best so far. Save Ourselves is amazing too!

[MLT9]

Seriously this is the only "metal" cd this year so far I am juiced for. Every other heavy thing this year has been total ass or got boring quick. Even the new Opeth song does nothing for me. Technical doesn't mean shit some of the most technical bands put me to sleep. As for metal in 2005 my hope lies in Chimaira and In Flames. Everything else is just so fucking bad. The new Meshuggah is a poor attempt at artsy inhabition and the new Opeth track (even though I cant judge by one track) sounds like Dimmu Borgir.

[sunshinethewerewolf]

Brutal shit!!!

[Drumwizard]

Ok, this is the deal. These new songs are very brutal, headbangin, fucked up (in a gd way) material.
Please listen to the songs more than three times to really put your opinion foward. First impressions wasnt to my expectations and thats because i was expecting the very best. When ur hopes are high and you listen to somethin different from the band then you it finally puts you down a bit. Nothing remains will own the other two songs and thats because its a fast song with long double bass parts and the chorus is very powerful. Save ourselves steps down a bit drumming wise although still the solo is a reasonable length. Inside the horror has a cool chorus, and yet again very different solo compared to the other two songs which adds to its uniqueness. Good ending also.

[NumbereDAZE]

inside the horror is pretty damn brutal (high stab factor), exactly what a song called inside the horror should sound like

[Krigeren]

After thoroughly listening to the E-card, they're pretty good songs. Whilst some parts are generic and bland, it's good. Personally, I think Kevin is really a step down from Andy. He's typical.. He still gets the job done pretty well but obviously no Andy.

[destroyer_of_senses]

You people just need to accept the fact that Meshuggah are better than Chimaira. Saying Chimaira are better than Meshuggah is like saying Static-X are better than Pantera!
just go away would you

[SLITrist101]

Holyshit these songs are fucking amazing. I love both of them. Inside The Horror is just fucking insane though.

Im fucking stoked.

[Sevaloco_Nick]

Yea, speaking of drumming, people said there are a lot of blast beats in the album. So far nothing remains is the only track i've heard with them in, anyone who's heard the album care to tell us whether the last 6 tracks of the album are a bit more brutal? Or are they all along the same lines as these 2?

[fuct666]

After thoroughly listening to the E-card, they're pretty good songs. Whilst some parts are generic and bland, it's good. Personally, I think Kevin is really a step down from Andy. He's typical.. He still gets the job done pretty well but obviously no Andy.

Watch your back. Youll get faggots saying "Andols left because hes a pussy whiped ass". Or something like this.

[SLITrist101]

Can someone give a link to this E-Card. I couldnt find it on the website

[Sevaloco_Nick]

http://www.chimaira.com/chimaira

[seanlargey]

i've heard enough from this album to say that i know it's going to be amazing. i need to preorder this, too bad i'm broke, good thing my birthday is only in a few days.

[SLITrist101]

http://www.chimaira.com/chimaira

thank you very much

[RedSkull]

WOW!

those 2 new tracks are quite impressive

You gotta love the Pantera influence in there, crazy ass solos and melodies mixed with some actual hardcore

A One of a kind mix; pretty interesting

[SLITrist101]

Anyone else notice that around like 2:10 it sounds like the sound that goes off at railroad tracks when a trail is comming? It happens again at like 2:40-ish

[Eddie]

its one of the cymbals

[RoS]

People just have to accept that every song is going to sound different as Mark has stated many times not one song sounds the same. Ofcourse people aren't going to like it but true Chimaira fans will listen and listen and love the album for what it is.

Nothing Remains: Kevin rocks out on this, fast and brutal.

Save Ourselves: Head banging skull crushing material, great lyrics great vocals and fucking awesome solo ROB YOU'RE A WEAPON!!!. ( quality of the song you can't really hear kevin come out on this so wait for the album )

Inside The Horror: Dark and BRUTAL, Chris's attribute is well mixed very smooth, great sounding song, Marks vocal work is just straight out spine shattering. Solos is not as good as Save ourselves IMO but the song is better.

Each track on this album will all have something better than the others, each track will be unique, the whole album will sound brutual and will kick ass.

[Hollywood Hughes]

I'll be honest, me and my g/f were sitting here listening to the tracks for the first time, we both LOVE Nothing Remains, but at first listen we were like...."Hmmmm". She was not impressed at all, lol.

After another listen or two, I like them. Not as much as NR, but they are decent enough.

[ReasoningTheImpossible]

I'm definitely into the 2 new songs, Save Ourselves and Inside the Horror. Save Ourselves sounds like a signature Chimaira bone crunching metal song. I hope to hear this one live for sure. Inside the Horror is a darker song, I think this may have been the song I heard Chimaira play at their Christmas show. Overall I like the new songs a lot, can't wait to see them at SOTU on Tuesday.

[flam-jam]

After thoroughly listening to the E-card, they're pretty good songs. Whilst some parts are generic and bland, it's good. Personally, I think Kevin is really a step down from Andy. He's typical.. He still gets the job done pretty well but obviously no Andy.


this has got to be the stupidest comment i've seen on this post

[bRaNcO]

well the first 2 seconds of the solo of inside horror are nice..and the rest sucks. im not impressed by the new album. what slipvayne says is correct, to 90% of the board anything by chimaira is simply amazing because it IS from chimaira..

i like a lot rob but man, i still didn't hear a fucking good solo from him in all 4 chimaira cds :S

[StMoolah]

We get the fucking point! The songs suck and the solos are shit, you don't have to keep telling us. :@

I would really like to see you do better, it would be a good laugh!

I know some bitch would whip out that.

[SLITrist101]

its one of the cymbals

fucking awesome cymbal lol.

[RedSkull]

i like a lot rob but man, i still didn't hear a fucking good solo from him in all 4 chimaira cds :S

You gotta be kidding me, do you even play guitar for god sake!?

Give the guy some freaking credits lol

[Shaky]

wow go fucking figure, a message board full of chimaira fans, actually liking the music the band Chimaira make. Damn thats a fuckin shocker right there. I would never expect that.

you guys who keep bitchin, keep it up.....you keep this thread being seen and even more people listenin to the songs cause of it. so thank you

[bRaNcO]

it's not that butthead. i like chimaira but that doesnt make me put everything they make in that god-like level..i know enough bands to see what's really really good(and i really liked chimaira at a point) and what's average or bad..what's funny anyways is that you feel really ofended if anyone doesn't like the new shit.

@redskull: well you can hear for example god forbid, that has a fucking nice solo guitarrist, that not only is fast and so as actually puts every fucking note on its place(anti-hero for example, 2 fucking great solos), not just random notes or 3 second solos like we can hear in chimaira ALTHOUGH i can see a big improvement in those new songs. but still not that good..

on the other side, did you ever listen to vital remains? download dechristianize , at war with god or rush of deliverance(has one of the best solos ever) and you will understand what is a REAL solo (H)
did you ever hear nile? they are blazing fast and have great melodies too..
children of bodom...death..himsa(that has an horrid vocalist, but amazing guitarrists)..black dahlia murder and so on

[RedSkull]

on the other side, did you ever listen to vital remains? download dechristianize , at war with god or rush of deliverance(has one of the best solos ever) and you will understand what is a REAL solo (H)
did you ever hear nile? they are blazing fast and have great melodies too..
children of bodom...death..himsa(that has an horrid vocalist, but amazing guitarrists)..black dahlia murder and so on

I own the Vital Remains record you're talking about and the latest Nile record yeah, and the solos Rob's pulling out on those 2 new songs are not weaker or else than the one those bands brings

As far as i'm concerned, from my 8th years guitar player point of view, those new Rob's leads fucking rips TOO and are far from anything like Slayer solos aka ''play-anything-fast'' solos. There's feeling on them and they fit the songs

My 2 cents

[RobChimaira]

Haha- now isn't this amusing. StMoolah- since I'll have trouble sleeping at night knowing that you aren't satisfied with my work, we've all decided to fly you out to help us write our next record! Infact, I can't believe that we haven't thought of this before!; having some dipshit around who thinks he knows everything about great guitar playing could be a great asset to my lead work! How disappointing that I had to waste my first Chimworld post on something like this. As if your negative opinion matters to me in the slightest, I felt I'd use this post to invite you out to our next Sydney show. -A pair of tickets, backstage passes, the whole nine yards. Maybe we could even sit down and you could give me some guitar lessons! I'm DYING to hear some more of your oh so constructive criticism! Hit me back and I'll have it set up, fag


Unfortunately a band can't write a record that every person on earth will appreciate. Everyone has a different opinion, and we (chimaira) can respect that. A special thanks to everyone who has supported us in the past. It's YOUR opinions that we hold close to our hearts. This record was made to the best of our abilities, and you're either going to be a fan, or you're not. But StMoolah- for Christ's sake, have some dignity.

[EvilPie]

Well my disapointments are still only Robs solos.
The rest is great though

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

Im laughing so hard i actually have tears that has to be the best burn i heard or even read.

[Kill_As_One]

Dude...that was the funniest shit I've read or heard about in the longest time...oh god. I saw it coming, too. I knew Rob would pop up and see what was up, and so he did. He stuck it to that guy. Nice work, Rob :D

[Womb Suffocation]

Haha- now isn't this amusing. StMoolah- since I'll have trouble sleeping at night knowing that you aren't satisfied with my work, we've all decided to fly you out to help us write our next record! Infact, I can't believe that we haven't thought of this before!; having some dipshit around who thinks he knows everything about great guitar playing could be a great asset to my lead work! How disappointing that I had to waste my first Chimworld post on something like this. As if your negative opinion matters to me in the slightest, I felt I'd use this post to invite you out to our next Sydney show. -A pair of tickets, backstage passes, the whole nine yards. Maybe we could even sit down and you could give me some guitar lessons! I'm DYING to hear some more of your oh so constructive criticism! Hit me back and I'll have it set up, fag

haha BURN!! holy shit StMoolah, you've just been skull fucked by Rob. well put my friend, well put.

[Peyj]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Tjalian/dee_pwned.jpg

[Shaky]

*dies laughin*

[Asphyxiated.]

hey i told him to shut up, lol... rob is quite a bit more awesome due to that post. rock on rob.

[SLITrist101]

Im laughing so hard im crying.

I love this place when Chimaira guys post
haha

[Darth Nata]

I find it weird that people are dissing the solos. On the 3 songs that I have heard I thought they were the part of Chimaira that had improved the most. Rob's solos fucking rip!!!!

[SLITrist101]

I think the same. I guess people expect way too fucking much. Like the guys put everything they have into this record. Give them some love for the work!

[Kill_As_One]

IT really disappoints me that people are dissing it. It's like they're trying to hard not to conform to something, that they are actually conforming. It's okay to like this shit guys, it's really good material, and just because everyone is is digging it, doesn't mean you should just turn the other way and say "fuck that shit". I, for one..really like this stuff, so keep up the good work Chimaira. (H)

[fuct666]

i like a lot rob but man, i still didn't hear a fucking good solo from him in all 4 chimaira cds :S

Then you ARE deaf aswell as dumb.


IT really disappoints me that people are dissing it. It's like they're trying to hard not to conform to something, that they are actually conforming. It's okay to like this shit guys, it's really good material, and just because everyone is is digging it, doesn't mean you should just turn the other way and say "fuck that shit". I, for one..really like this stuff, so keep up the good work Chimaira. (H)
Again, we are not dissing anything. We are sharing our opinions which Rob said himself they respect but its the people signed upto this forum that dont like what we say. If anyone should be whining about what we say its the band, not the fans. Its like if we say we hate it, we will get at least 20 people saying are you crazy/your cant call yourself a fan or whatever.

[Jenny]

woaah, good stuff \m/ it OWNS :D i love Save Ourselves, but inside the horror is awesome toooo! can't wait for the album!!!

[Kill_As_One]

Then you ARE deaf aswell as dumb.


Again, we are not dissing anything. We are sharing our opinions which Rob said himself they respect but its the people signed upto this forum that dont like what we say. If anyone should be whining about what we say its the band, not the fans. Its like if we say we hate it, we will get at least 20 people saying are you crazy/your cant call yourself a fan or whatever. No, I was referring to the people who ACTUALLY ARE dissing it.

[Krigeren]

this has got to be the stupidest comment i've seen on this post

K. Well, I listened to the 3 songs in full quality and they're much better than the e-card. Having the quality of my speakers and the e-card very low, it just seemed poor... After listening to the demo I've got.. The songs are excellent, man. Rob and Matt surely stepped up, and the solos are excellent... Well, pretty much the whole band stepped up, but I will still stand by the fact that I don't like Kevin's drumming (on this album) not even nearly as much as I liked Andy's. Andy was just phenominal and extremely original when Kevin's drumming on these songs are ok and not nearly as original as Andy. Needless to say this is coming from someone who is also a drummer. But yeah.. Really good shit, guys. Can't wait for the new shit.[/end rant]

[Bleak]

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with everyone here saying 'you have to accept this..' and 'people who dont like these songs are stupid....' blah blah blah.
When you come onto a board you have to expect that everyone is gonna view things differently, to each their fucking own, if you don't like the songs - then good, if you do like the songs - even better. I have had a good listen to the ecard now so i can give my proper opinion now.
I loved Nothing Remains, it is great to listen to through headphones while ur walking cuz its just an insane song, nice and aggresive, so far its the only of the 3 songs that actually sound epic mainly in that guitar part just after Mark sings "no...." . I love Save Ourselves, its nice and heavy. I have accepted the fact that this isnt going to be TIOR Pt 2 and the guitar riffs sound like they are going to be a lot simpler and a lot more straight forward on this album. I've never been the biggest fan of Rob Arnolds solo's, his soloing is a bit overrated, but the solos in Save Ourselves and Inside The Horror are an improvement on anything off TIOR. The songs are nor quiet what i expected so my anticipation levels for this album dropped a bit, but i have accepted that this album might be more of a Slayer sounding album where all the songs have a simialr feel, and there is nothing wrong with Slayer at all. I havnt heard much Meshuggah so no comment.

[goodking]

Don't see how anyone can say the solos arent brilliant... they are totally awesome, espiecially that bit with the cool riff at the end of ITH at about 4:10... one of their defining moments... even if the quality of the sound on the ecard is poor!

LMAO@rob's flame

Taste of My Scythe, can you PM me the higher quality ones?

[ChimairaFan88]

Can u PM me the higher quality ones aswell if u can

[fuct666]

He said no.

[Captain YoYo's]

Well, I don't think I've ever seen so many brown noses before :O

[StMoolah]

Im disappointed in you Rob. I don’t like your solo work and you take it upon yourself to make it world war fucking three. Is this how you work Rob, You say something on the DVD, then the next album you come out and do the exact opposite? Is this what Chimaira is, Do something good, Say something good, then try and do something else that isn’t crash hot (IMO) and if you somebody out in those lonely interwebs doesn’t like it, you feel the need to not only comment on it to say im wrong, you go on a sarcastic rant and highlighted the miss received fact im calling you a bad guitar player. Because I’m not, If saying these solos are bad and forced, Hell I even think some of Metallicas solos are bad and forced. And Kirk Fucking Hammett (correct me if im wrong by the way, even tho im sure I don’t need to say it, because if I am, you will and the rest of the board will go “OH SNAP BRO YOU JUST GOT SERVED”) is in the Guitar Hall of fame?
Yeah dude ill take you up on your offer. I'm so good a guitar player ill even show you how to play ‘B sharp’
I love guys like you, you criticize one thing, and you have to go and a tangent rant “if theses suck why don’t you come and show us or, see if you can do better”
Dude, I met you in Sydney and you were real nice to me, Hell you were the first person who I’ve even bothered to talk to because I like your guitar work in the previous two albums, even if you still hate POOE. But im not the only one in the internet who doesn’t like these solos, let alone the songs.
If you think the solos are good and up to scratch, then fuck what I say, what do I know, im just a loser on an internet message board.

[perberos]

shit this is just my bad luck. when the new songs come out, i cant listen to them because of this shitty computer. daamn.

[Severity]

i like a lot rob but man, i still didn't hear a fucking good solo from him in all 4 chimaira cds :S
Wtf?? What do you class a good solo then.... Christ

[javiINFLAMES]

Hell, to be honest, I thought Rob would have more respect towards someone's opinion than that. I guess St.Moolah's rants struck a nerve.

[Kiriyama]

The solos are awesome they work for the song ARE NOT forced and sound cool! just because they arent self indulgent overly technical wank does not make them bad!

the new record will rule
Rob rules
and most importantly chimaira fucking rule!

[This_is_my_life]

Ive been listening to the songs for the last couple of days and to begin with i didnt think i was gonna like them either but maybe i just needed a break from it coz today ive been listening to them 2 tracks loads and i love em. I cant wait for this album to come out!!
As for Rob's solo's i think they're great, true what someone said earlier about the Eye's solo. That solo is the best solo he's ever done and they dont compare to that but i still think they're pretty cool and cant wait to see them live!!

[bRaNcO]

Wtf?? What do you class a good solo then.... Christ
see my other posts

[Tom]

saaaaaaalvaaaaaationnnnnnnn

[kaostik]

Hell, to be honest, I thought Rob would have more respect towards someone's opinion than that.

fuck that. when someone's opinion shits all over someone else's hardwork, for no other reason than to be an ass, its fair game to shit all over it back. rob put a ton of time, energy, and all his talent to put out something he was proud of, im sure. and for someone to come back and say its the worst part of the whole, or to say its untalented, or whatever, thats just not creative. its just him being an ass. im not kissing this guys ass by defending him, its just sometimes, some people need to remember and realize that they arent untouchable musicians and stars, they are still fucking people...people who care had have feelings. no need to shit all over them. rob didnt do shit to anyone here, so if anyone wants to dish shit, he best be able to eat it too, or tough shit.

personally, i like the songs. but im going to wait for the actual high quality versions of these songs before i stamp my judgement on them. i remember inside the horror being much more brutal live, there are elements to it that didnt show up on this crappy quality, such as bassdrops and electronics. not everyone is going to like the new stuff. thats expected. when does everyone like the same thing? never. i like it, and thats good for me. there are 7 other songs on the way. hopefully for the people that dont find these 3 all too enticing, youll find something you like in those songs. if not, well, that sucks for you. sorry, but you'll still have TIOR and POOE that you like.

[fuct666]

Edit by COBHC: this part was erased, read the forum rules. thank you


fuck that. when someone's opinion shits all over someone else's hardwork, for no other reason than to be an ass, its fair game to shit all over it back. rob put a ton of time, energy, and all his talent to put out something he was proud of, im sure. and for someone to come back and say its the worst part of the whole, or to say its untalented, or whatever, thats just not creative. its just him being an ass. im not kissing this guys ass by defending him, its just sometimes, some people need to remember and realize that they arent untouchable musicians and stars, they are still fucking people...people who care had have feelings. no need to shit all over them. rob didnt do shit to anyone here, so if anyone wants to dish shit, he best be able to eat it too, or tough shit.

personally, i like the songs. but im going to wait for the actual high quality versions of these songs before i stamp my judgement on them. i remember inside the horror being much more brutal live, there are elements to it that didnt show up on this crappy quality, such as bassdrops and electronics. not everyone is going to like the new stuff. thats expected. when does everyone like the same thing? never. i like it, and thats good for me. there are 7 other songs on the way. hopefully for the people that dont find these 3 all too enticing, youll find something you like in those songs. if not, well, that sucks for you. sorry, but you'll still have TIOR and POOE that you like.

I just HAD to quote this because its a long post.

Well you cant please everyone, now just get over what was said. You will never change the way people feel so its pointless even trying..

[Killswitcher]

Good stuff.

[NumbereDAZE]

yeah that does suck that Rob posted probably the first and last time here because of some fucking piker that should be venting his negative chimaira issues somewhere other then a place where you are obviously gona get an arguement

[fuct666]

yeah that does suck that Rob posted probably the first and last time here because of some fucking piker that should be venting his negative chimaira issues somewhere other then a place where you are obviously gona get an arguement

It started as his opinion. Then you fuckers here cant accept that someone doesnt like it, and someone doesnt bumfuck everything that Chimaira release. Then it escalated as an arguement, not his fault.

[Spineglass]

Edit by COBHC: read the rules

[StMoolah]

Good to see people still around on theses interbutts still unable to read a whole post/topic before they have there say.
I never knew you automatically become an ass when you have an alternating opinion on something. Silly me.
THESE SOLOS FIT SO WELL INTO THE SONG THEY DONT SOUND FORCED IN THE SLIGHTEST.

[Shaky]

hey guess what? WHO GIVES A FUCK ANYMORE you dont like, you dont like, some of us do. get the fuck over it

[fuct666]

THIS IS TO ONE OF THE CHIMAIRA GUYS. SO EVERYONE ELSE FUCK OFF IF YOU DONT AGREE.

I feel that Nothing Remains and Salvation are the worst songs on the new record.

Just thought id say. Like i said, dont bother quoting this you little fuck heads this is what i feel AFTER hearing the full thing.
Kevin fits with these new songs nicely.


hey guess what? WHO GIVES A FUCK ANYMORE you dont like, you dont like, some of us do. get the fuck over it

Hey, guess what?
That was a pointless post, just like this quote. Read the full thread, you will realise he stated his opinion, it escalated from there because peopel cant accept it.

[xXmetalheadXx]

dude...i understand people have opinions..but if you think the solos in any 3 of the new songs suck, than you ARE fucking deaf....not that ive heard an insane amount of metal in my life, but i think ive heard enough to say that these solos are fucking awesome...the songs rock...they DONT sound forced...if you dont like it, fine..you can say they arent your thing..but dont come on here and say they suck or are hsit....like rob said, these guys work their asses off to bring us the music we love and they love...you shoul dbe happy they havent sold out or tried making softer music to sell more..and its bands like chimaira that you HAVE to appreciate for NOT doing that, cause so many do it....so fuck off..

[Ill Dino]

it's just personal taste. the solos in these three songs aren't as amazing as some of the solos on the rest of the album, I think. it's all personal

[Womb Suffocation]

I feel that Nothing Remains and Salvation are the worst songs on the new record.

I agree with this statement. I won't say any more in respect of the rules :)

[StMoolah]

dude...i understand people have opinions..but if you think the solos in any 3 of the new songs suck, than you ARE fucking deaf....not that ive heard an insane amount of metal in my life, but i think ive heard enough to say that these solos are fucking awesome...the songs rock...they DONT sound forced...if you dont like it, fine..you can say they arent your thing..but dont come on here and say they suck or are hsit....like rob said, these guys work their asses off to bring us the music we love and they love...you shoul dbe happy they havent sold out or tried making softer music to sell more..and its bands like chimaira that you HAVE to appreciate for NOT doing that, cause so many do it....so fuck off..
Firstly, i find it hard to take anybody with that x crap in there name seriously.
Secondly, Why not here? Should this place be void of different opinions?
Thirdly, i could say the same thing about you about being deaf if you cant here that the solos are out of place in the songs.
Finally, I dont know about you, but since when do you have to become softer to sell more records? Look at your history my man, see how many bands have went softer and sold more records than there harder stuff?
I have to apprecitate the fact there releasing songs i dont like instead of songs i may perhaps like? i dont fucking think so.


it's just personal taste. the solos in these three songs aren't as amazing as some of the solos on the rest of the album, I think. it's all personal
You know i hope so. I really do.

[Tom]

Edit by COBHC: read the rules
ok, so this guy cant say it leaked


the solos in these three songs aren't as amazing as some of the solos on the rest of the album

I agree with this statement. I won't say any more in respect of the rules :)
but you guys can allude to the rest of the album?

i can understand not telling where to get it or helping people get it or whatever, but not even being able to talk about it is pretty stupid.

[Killswitcher]

ok, so this guy cant say it leaked



but you guys can allude to the rest of the album?

i can understand not telling where to get it or helping people get it or whatever, but not even being able to talk about it is pretty stupid.

I knew somebody was going to bitch about how things are done. If you guys just wouldn't talk about it at all then there would be nothing to worry about.

[Severity]

Well talking about it leaking etc... will jut notify other members. And they may decide to download the album. And never get round to purchasing the album. So it isnt pretty stupid at all. And hey its all blown up now anyways. So if you guys want to bitch about the most petty things then fucking do it.

[destroyer_of_senses]

just pm each other about it.


Firstly, i find it hard to take anybody with that x crap in there name seriously.
Secondly, Why not here? Should this place be void of different opinions?
Thirdly, i could say the same thing about you about being deaf if you cant here that the solos are out of place in the songs.
Finally, I dont know about you, but since when do you have to become softer to sell more records? Look at your history my man, see how many bands have went softer and sold more records than there harder stuff?
I have to apprecitate the fact there releasing songs i dont like instead of songs i may perhaps like? i dont fucking think so.


You know i hope so. I really do.
pantera actually. chimaira too, TIOR was "harder" than POOE.

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

Thats what i was thinking cause most people want to wait and be surprised when it comes out and i respect that.

[destroyer_of_senses]

people are going to download it anyway. regardless of what goes on here, the fact of the matter is, that chimaira is losing money because of networks.

[EdgeCrusher]

just pm each other about it.


pantera actually. chimaira too, TIOR was "harder" than POOE.

Its amazing how many people talk shit about Chimaira changing their sound, but I bet you anything they probably like Pantera. Glamtera anyone?

As for St Moolah/M2D, it must be great to have the Chimaira board hate you, and the MH board too, cause you bitch about the band on this one, then go to the MH board and try to defend them not being nu metal. Wheres your buddy pest at to run in and say something?

[crin-dog]

im just a loser on an internet message board

^^true statement.

I enjoy the songs. I think too many people have an idea of what THEY want the new album to be like instead of just accepting it for what it is.

[Spineglass]

goddamn. i LOVE Save Ourselves!!! damn:D

[TheFirstDeadlySin]

I enjoy the songs. I think too many people have an idea of what THEY want the new album to be like instead of just accepting it for what it is.

Yep, if they have these high expectations, then they should start a band of their own and try to top Chimaira. I've been playing guitar for 5 years and I think Rob's solos are all amazing. Someone criticizing his solos should pick up a guitar & duplicate them and see for themselves how it's not that easy, and if YOU can top his shit then maybe you need to get yourself a band going and blow us away with your solos and quit bitching about his solos.

I like all 3 songs the same, they're all good.

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

i download new albums cause im too impaitent to wait ecspecially when i know i can get it but i at least still buy em like i did devildriver as i lay dying, etc

[Asphyxiated.]

i downloaded, i'm buying, i can't wait to have the real thing in my hands and i'm definately anticipating seeing them live x10 now.

[StMoolah]

Theres a difference there edgecrusher.
Firstly there totally different topics.
I dont think Chimaira have EVER been nu-metal. However i feel the solos are forced and generally not up to scratch.

And back to the solos since you are forcing my hand here.
For those who know solos.
Theres a big differance between 'hard' solos and 'good' solos.
Hard doesnt neccesarly mean good.

I sware some of you people here are either, unable to take somebodies elses opinion or just general idiots.


pantera actually. chimaira too, TIOR was "harder" than POOE.
What are you talking about man? Do you read my post?

[destroyer_of_senses]

yeah you were going on about how bands usually lose sales whern they get heavier. these bands did not.

[Tom]

i downloaded it, burned 25 copies and gave them out to all my friends.
none of us are going to buy the record.

[StMoolah]

Um dude, you missed my point, i said bands that go softer LOSE record sales. I didnt say bands who go heavier lose sales.

[destroyer_of_senses]

the fact of the matter is, they can lose their original fanbase, but they will appeal to the masses. metallicas self titled album was softer than anything before, and im not saying i like it, but it sold by far the most.

[StMoolah]

Theres softer and theres losing there thrash base roots for more crunch.
Load is soft. Reload is soft.

[javiINFLAMES]

i downloaded it, burned 25 copies and gave them out to all my friends.
none of us are going to buy the record.

send me one!!

[Malakian105]

I find it weird that people are dissing the solos. On the 3 songs that I have heard I thought they were the part of Chimaira that had improved the most. Rob's solos fucking rip!!!!

I have to say the same, even though everyone will probably jump me saying shit like 'yeah, well you would love them' blah blah blah.

There is so much improvement on this whole record and the main part comes from Rob's solos. I fucking love them. They are not the typical solo that you hear in metal songs. The ones that sound the same as the rest of the band's in that genre. These ones stand out. They have character and depth and it's something that makes me such a fan of Rob's work.

As for the songs. Well yeah, a lot of people may say they're amazing, but that's because they are. Chimaira, to me, and I hope others, are a step up from every other metal band that's going around at the moment.
Chimaira supposedlyaren't as good as Mastodon, Meshuggah, Lamb of God etc.....???
why not?
Yes Meshuggah are good and yes their guitarists might be able to play well, but I just find their work boring and bland. It's good but nothing overally special to what's going on in todays metal scene.
Chimaira are the freshness that I love. So this makes me up their asses?
Well fine, then Im happy sit up Chimaira's asses for a very long time.

[destroyer_of_senses]

these solos fucking rip!love em so much. everything is improved by about 7 at least. insane, catchy drumming with powerful vocals to say the least. wow, chimaira is kicking my ass lately.


Theres softer and theres losing there thrash base roots for more crunch.
Load is soft. Reload is soft.
you know soft sells. you know that metallica was softer, even if it had a crunch. look at kse. i think they've softened up, but they have gotten more popular lately. soft selling is the reason pop music is easy to listen to, and why metal isnt called pop music.

[StMoolah]

We are not allowed to talk about the other tracks at all are we? I.E. "IMO, The solo(s) on Pray for All is better than the previous ones ive heard of this new stuff because it fits in with the rest of the song" is not allowed.

Edit. TEOH Sold more cause it got a SHITLOAD of publicity. Has nothing due to their softness.
Load and reload didnt sell as much as MOP. RTL. Black, and i think AJFA.

[Bleak]

I've been playing guitar for about 5 years, that may not be as long as some people have been playin on this board but it is definately long enough for me to be able to tell the diff between a good guitar player and a bad guitar player. Rob Arnold is a good player, no doubt about it, and i appreciate that he put so much time and energy into the solo's for the new album. But these solo's are hardly spectacular, im not going to tell you that their forced at all, i just think they are very average. I like the solo in Inside The Horror because of the rhythmic thing he does at the start of it, i think thats cool and different. But Robs solo's have never been anything above average, he certainly isnt bad at all, i think he solo's suit the music. If you wanna hear fantastic solo's from newer bands check out the Arnott brothers in Arch Enemy or Jeff Loomis from Nevermore.

[EvilPie]

i download new albums cause im too impaitent to wait ecspecially when i know i can get it but i at least still buy em like i did devildriver as i lay dying, etc

Hell, I'm donwloading it first too lol. And from what I've already heard from this album I know I'll be buying it anyways. Nothing wrong with checking albums out first. I buy bands albums that I actually LIKE and not something that will just last in my cd player for a couple of listens.

[vap0r]

I've been playing guitar for about 5 years, that may not be as long as some people have been playin on this board but it is definately long enough for me to be able to tell the diff between a good guitar player and a bad guitar player. Rob Arnold is a good player, no doubt about it, and i appreciate that he put so much time and energy into the solo's for the new album. But these solo's are hardly spectacular, im not going to tell you that their forced at all, i just think they are very average. I like the solo in Inside The Horror because of the rhythmic thing he does at the start of it, i think thats cool and different. But Robs solo's have never been anything above average, he certainly isnt bad at all, i think he solo's suit the music. If you wanna hear fantastic solo's from newer bands check out the Arnott brothers in Arch Enemy or Jeff Loomis from Nevermore.

or dime ;)

[chef Jeff]

i definitely love the new songs. so far i am noticing that neither of them sound the same which makes it nice. songs are very solid and wicked. however.... i think that "Save Ourselves" could have stood alone without the solo. it just seems too booty for real. like rob just wanted to put a solo in there. and it really wasn't a spectacular solo for me. "Inside the Horror" on the other hand i felt was very sick. solo was great and just a kick ass song. All three are catchy as fuck, and it is DEFINITELY Chimaira. I am still stoked to hear the rest. i haven't downloaded it, yet i would to hear it but haven't found sources. but i would absolutely buy it to support my fav band. Although meeting them was pretty upsetting. They just seemed to have bigger heads and didn't really seem to be too embrasing towards folks. just some of them not all of them. maybe it was just a bad day who knows, but i def felt a little different. maybe i am just a huge people person. oh well. i just definitely wish too that i could have played ONE song with them. just a dream i guess. but new shit is incredible. CHEERS!

[crin-dog]

Personally I'd rather have solos with SOUL than speed and that shows off ability. Anyone can sit and learn their scales day in day out and and have no solo writing ability. Rob puts feeling in his, much like Metallica did.

[bRaNcO]

ok now that i've heard those 3 songs many times i can saywith acuracy that indeed IMO the beggining of the solos sound cool but as the time moves on and the solo starts getting faster i lose the interest in it, altough i like the beggining

[Hyder]

Man i hope some of you kids just stop over listening to the record, forcing yourselves to like anything is always a bad thing. Learn the fine art of Moderation, and maybe then in the long run you'll see what you really feel about the album. For now, some of you cats are just pretty must spitting the first thing that comes out your head (which isn't a bad thing) without even having an open mind that maybe in the long run your thoughts will change.

[bRaNcO]

k

[Shaky]

Personally I'd rather have solos with SOUL than speed and that shows off ability. Anyone can sit and learn their scales day in day out and and have no solo writing ability. Rob puts feeling in his, much like Metallica did.


exactly, much rather have some emotion conveyed in whats played than havin it sound fake. like all they did was sit there and go "hey ill do this scale, and then this run, and ill merge it with this one" fuck best playin comes from just rippin and lettin it go. over thinkin it is gonna fuck it up.

[Sepultallica9]

Some points I want to make:

* I was really disappointed Rob found it necessary to come onto the site and slag off someone who didn't like the songs or the solos (or whatever). Everyone has their opinions, we ALL have to live with that. Moolah possibly could have stated his opinion more respectfully, but he does not deserve to be flamed by everyone from someone in the band, downwards.

*Which brings me to point two, if someone doesn't think the same way you do, then whoopdefuckingdoo. If they agree, then good. If they don't, then fine, as long as they state their opinion respectfully. If you say "this sucks" or "this is shit", then expect to cop it for being a dick.

*Why do people scrutinize solos so much? Just view the product as a whole, if it has awesome ripping solos, then good. If it has crunching breakdowns and no solos, then good. Why does it matter how many notes the solos have? (extreme case there).

[EvilPie]

Some points I want to make:

* I was really disappointed Rob found it necessary to come onto the site and slag off someone who didn't like the songs or the solos (or whatever). Everyone has their opinions, we ALL have to live with that. Moolah possibly could have stated his opinion more respectfully, but he does not deserve to be flamed by everyone from someone in the band, downwards.

*Which brings me to point two, if someone doesn't think the same way you do, then whoopdefuckingdoo. If they agree, then good. If they don't, then fine, as long as they state their opinion respectfully. If you say "this sucks" or "this is shit", then expect to cop it for being a dick.

*Why do people scrutinize solos so much? Just view the product as a whole, if it has awesome ripping solos, then good. If it has crunching breakdowns and no solos, then good. Why does it matter how many notes the solos have? (extreme case there).


Word.

I didn't see why Rob needed to do that either.
Personally I don't like the solos but I'm glad that other people love them because it shows that it hasn't been a great let down to everyone.

[Severity]

We dont even know if its rob. I mean mark told me to make rob an account weeks back for him, Which he never used. Look at the birthday in his profile? That cant be right. but the only thing that matches up is the email adress used in his profile. Which is the one matches upto robs. So *shrugs*

[Koal]

Hey everyone this is my debut thread, and i am very excited right now because i just joined tonight and found this thread and am very glad i did. I already knew about Nothing Remains, in fact i've already transcribed the lyrics and sent it in to two lyrics sites. But when i found this Ecard i flipped!! sounds like this is gonna be a great album, i must say that i agree with some of those guys up there.. it is lacking something, Save Ourselves doesnt really have anything landmark... so im kinda like ?? but it IS terrible quality on the Ecard so maybe the CD quality will bring out the true feel.. Inside the Horror has a great chunky feel to it and i love that song. I hope all the new songs sound like that shit. But yeah, lacking or not we are lucky to have heard 3 songs from their new album a month early. Im excited to hear the rest! peace.

[EvilPie]

... Dude... we've had the lyrics for Nothing Remains for like a month

[Eddie]

We dont even know if its rob. I mean mark told me to make rob an account weeks back for him, Which he never used. Look at the birthday in his profile? That cant be right. but the only thing that matches up is the email adress used in his profile. Which is the one matches upto robs. So *shrugs*
well he did post on the old board, and he'd be about 25 right?



also, what happened to banning people talking about album piracy? dont go soft on these cunts



also, listening to the metal show interview, that train tracks sounding thing was actually a gong

[vap0r]

i dont give a shit about anyone in the band at all.. about the the same as most of you. but if the dude wants to get on the board and talk shit because someone didnt like something.. its a damned messageboard.. it's also his hard work and shit put into it, you have to understand why he might do that... anyway.. stop bitching! ;)

[Severity]

well he did post on the old board, and he'd be about 25 right?



also, what happened to banning people talking about album piracy? dont go soft on these cunts



also, listening to the metal show interview, that train tracks sounding thing was actually a gong
banned a few today. If you see any links/etc flying about message me. As its hard to see everything.

[chimaira mark]

we knew going into this record that we would lose some fans...we went into imposs the same way. there were people bitching up a storm when they heard imposs, but the fact that we wrote a record that we loved and put hard work into was all that mattered. the same goes for this one. if people get off by picking apart little things here and there then so be it, it has been said before, but you have some choices, don't listen to us, or go start your own band and top us. this message board is not even a % of our fan base and negative comments don't bother us. you talk about rob bitching out st.moolah, well maybe in your opinion he was wrong about that but he made a good point. if this dude is so high and mighty, then why not come to the shows and teach rob a trick or two. i have a question, if he is so high and mighty why isn't he known around the world as being a great guitarist like rob...oh yeah he sits around using his energy on a computer talking shit.
whatever.
i have said it before and i will say it again, people looking for imposs part 2 are going to dislike this record, and that is fine by us.
people thinking this record was going to be lamb of god or some other hot band at the moment or even some underground band like chilidren of bodom you will be upset.
this is the new chimaira record, love it or hate it. we are proud of it, and we stand behind it.

[StMoolah]

i personally have a go at solos when thery are forced and just generally sounding wrong. Some of the people are going on a tangent trying to defend what rob said on the dvd and i agreed with him, however, 2 of the three solos on the e-card tracks should not of been there, they were put there to just have a solo there. they ruin the dynamic of the song hence there forced solos. There also emotionless solos.

Last time i talk about the solos, i promise. :p

Edit: Great Even Mark is using the "if your so good" line.
Am i missing something? Do you have to be a guitar virtuoso to have an opinion on solos? is that it Mark?

[MuCkO]

i've been listening to the album almost the whole day (and i'm wasted on Tramadol ;) ), and IMHO it's the best thing I've heard in a long time...

[Kill_As_One]

The bitch fest needs to stop. Mark and Rob made their good points. Now everyone just fucking back off. You can have your own opinion, because everyone is entitled to one, but pissing and moaning about Rob backing his shit up is fucking gay. Grow up and fucking get a life. Rob had a valid point because a certain someone DISSED him, not ONLY stated their opinion, but basically dissed him..so fuck you. Chimaira rules. If you don't like it, get the fuck out of this message board.

[flam-jam]

Well, pretty much the whole band stepped up, but I will still stand by the fact that I don't like Kevin's drumming (on this album) not even nearly as much as I liked Andy's. Andy was just phenominal and extremely original when Kevin's drumming on these songs are ok and not nearly as original as Andy. Needless to say this is coming from someone who is also a drummer. But yeah.. Really good shit, guys. Can't wait for the new shit.[/end rant]

if you are a drummer than i feel sorry for your other band members because you obviously don't understand anything about putting feeling into your drumming. the previous drummer sounded like he had mark and rob write out his drum parts on a drum machine and yet you think he was original.

did you ever think that the reason the whole band "stepped up" on this album was due to kevin's writing and drumming. there is a reason why all the songs sound different from each other on this album and you being a drummer should know that that comes from a drummer who plays with energy and feeling.

you should study drummers more if you want to be one yourself because i think you are headed in the wrong direction.

[Severity]

StMoolah shut it NOW please, You have had your rant. You have expressed your opinion and what you think many times. Now leave it be :)

[xXmetalheadXx]

Firstly, i find it hard to take anybody with that x crap in there name seriously.
Secondly, Why not here? Should this place be void of different opinions?
Thirdly, i could say the same thing about you about being deaf if you cant here that the solos are out of place in the songs.
Finally, I dont know about you, but since when do you have to become softer to sell more records? Look at your history my man, see how many bands have went softer and sold more records than there harder stuff?
I have to apprecitate the fact there releasing songs i dont like instead of songs i may perhaps like? i dont fucking think so.


You know i hope so. I really do.

dude...what the fuck does an xx in my name have to do with my credibility? you sound like an idiot for just saying that...ummm, isnt it a general consensus that when bands sell out their music becomes more radio friendly? that doesnt mean that it will always sell more if they newer music they make sucks....look at staind...dysfunction was a great cd...look what they have done since...all crap, and guess what? it sells like hot cakes...and no one said you had to appreciate songs you dont like...just dont come here and disrespect them by talking shit about it...not sure if this was you entirely or someone else...read my post...saying that the solos are "shit" or whatever was said is fucked up..just be cool about it and say its not my thing...

[StMoolah]

StMoolah shut it NOW please, You have had your rant. You have expressed your opinion and what you think many times. Now leave it be :)

Fine.

[Krigeren]

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[Toenboon]

I read the rules now. I have been around since the oldest site was up and the first board ever got active but never gave the boardrules a look. I'm sorry about that and it won't happen again.

[Kill_As_One]

Read the rules or get the FUCK out.

[Koal]

lot of hate is filling this forum.. settle down people its just conversation.

[Womb Suffocation]

lot of hate is filling this forum.. settle down people its just conversation.

word :p... I notice that you are from Michigan, what part might you be from?

[Malakian105]

i personally have a go at solos when thery are forced and just generally sounding wrong. Some of the people are going on a tangent trying to defend what rob said on the dvd and i agreed with him, however, 2 of the three solos on the e-card tracks should not of been there, they were put there to just have a solo there. they ruin the dynamic of the song hence there forced solos. There also emotionless solos.


Can I just say?
What the fuck do you mean by 2 of the 3 solos shouldn't have been there?
What's that all about?
Chimaira wrote a song with that solo....

None of the solos are forced at all...they're part of the songs and the songs fucking rock.


We dont even know if its rob. I mean mark told me to make rob an account weeks back for him, Which he never used. Look at the birthday in his profile? That cant be right. but the only thing that matches up is the email adress used in his profile. Which is the one matches upto robs. So *shrugs*

I thought his B-day was on January 5th and I thought he'd be 26 this year.

[Kiriyama]

Can I just say?
What the fuck do you mean by 2 of the 3 solos shouldn't have been there?
What's that all about?
Chimaira wrote a song with that solo....

None of the solos are forced at all...they're part of the songs and the songs fucking rock.



Agree 100% !

[StMoolah]

Lady for fucks sake, are you keep on bringing this up because im gonna get banned if i keep on going on and on about the solos?
Fuck.
ITS A FUCKING OPINION LEARN TO ACCEPT OTHER PEOPLES FUCKING OPINIONS

[Shaky]

ya know, i think everyone needs to get their panties out of the knot they are in, smoke a joint calm the fuck down. ya thats a good idea

[Happy Time Harry]

haha you guys are funny!

[vap0r]

/me throws poo at the thread

[BernyBloodLust]

Hi

[Happy Time Harry]

hello

[Metallipath]

I'd Prefer To Wait For Its Official Release, Rather Then Getting It Before Chimaira Wanted Us To.

[lonecry]

My first post (I think lol). I do think everyone needs to stop bitchin at each other. I think Rob's solos are awesome. To be honest I wouldn't know what a forced solo sounded like lol, but what I can say is that whether you like the solos or not you can 100% guarentee they are played to the best of Rob's ability at this time. If he cant pull off superior ass-raping solos like <insert ass-raping band here> then tough shit. This is Chimaira and these are Chimaira solos, like it or lump it, but dont slag it off.

Anyway has anyone managed to decipher the lyrics for Save Ourselves and Inside The Horror. I've had a go and come up with the majority, which I can post if anyone is interested. Let me know. Help filling in the gaps would be appreciated though :D

[EvilPie]

Well it's obvious now that robs solos are going to be the mixed reactions and reviews on the new album

[Tom]

I FUCKING HATE CHIMAIRA FANS
x

[Hyder]

Am i missing something? Do you have to be a guitar virtuoso to have an opinion on solos?

If you want an example think of it this way. It's like a person with down syndrome (being you) telling Michael Jordon (Rob) how to and how not to play basketball.

[Betz]

I don't agree at all, music can be enjoyed by anyone, regardless of their musical ability. A guitarists opinion on how good as solo is just as good as a non guitarists. Michael Jordon is a pretty bad comparison - music isn't a sport. And for the record, I do play guitar.

[javiINFLAMES]

Some points I want to make:

* I was really disappointed Rob found it necessary to come onto the site and slag off someone who didn't like the songs or the solos (or whatever). Everyone has their opinions, we ALL have to live with that. Moolah possibly could have stated his opinion more respectfully, but he does not deserve to be flamed by everyone from someone in the band, downwards.

*Which brings me to point two, if someone doesn't think the same way you do, then whoopdefuckingdoo. If they agree, then good. If they don't, then fine, as long as they state their opinion respectfully. If you say "this sucks" or "this is shit", then expect to cop it for being a dick.

*Why do people scrutinize solos so much? Just view the product as a whole, if it has awesome ripping solos, then good. If it has crunching breakdowns and no solos, then good. Why does it matter how many notes the solos have? (extreme case there).


I think this is enough to close the thread.


Lady for fucks sake, are you keep on bringing this up because im gonna get banned if i keep on going on and on about the solos?
Fuck.
ITS A FUCKING OPINION LEARN TO ACCEPT OTHER PEOPLES FUCKING OPINIONS


Another solid point. This is a message board, it was his opinion. Why doesn't Severity ban the others who are talking shit about his opinion? Cause he doesn't agree about his opinion either. What cocks. Totally unfair.

[Severity]

No ones going to get banned. Its a clash of opinions. St Moolah has done nothing wrong. And nor has anyone else. The only way you will get ban is talking about the new album leaking and sharing links. *grr* :)

[javiINFLAMES]

we knew going into this record that we would lose some fans...we went into imposs the same way. there were people bitching up a storm when they heard imposs, but the fact that we wrote a record that we loved and put hard work into was all that mattered. the same goes for this one. if people get off by picking apart little things here and there then so be it, it has been said before, but you have some choices, don't listen to us, or go start your own band and top us. this message board is not even a % of our fan base and 1. negative comments don't bother us. 2. you talk about rob bitching out st.moolah, well maybe in your opinion he was wrong about that but he made a good point. 3. if this dude is so high and mighty, then why not come to the shows and teach rob a trick or two. i have a question, if he is so high and mighty why isn't he known around the world as being a great guitarist like rob...oh yeah he sits around using his energy on a computer talking shit.
whatever.
i have said it before and i will say it again, people looking for imposs part 2 are going to dislike this record, and that is fine by us.
people thinking this record was going to be lamb of god or some other hot band at the moment or even some underground band like chilidren of bodom you will be upset.
this is the new chimaira record, love it or hate it. we are proud of it, and we stand behind it.


1. Then why are you putting down someone's negative comment right now?? You are bothered enough to post about it. Just let it slide.

2. Same as 1. Also, the way he did it was wrong. AGAIN, there are SQUILLIONS of people talking crap around the world, not online, so don't gang up on one dude. CHILL.

3. I find that to be totally untrue, due to the fact that I have been to Guitar Centers, and I have seen people play so awesomely and badass that I stood in-shock. When I went up to them to see if they were interested in joining a band with me, since I prefer to call myself a rhythm guitarist, they said they don't have the time. Work, family, etc. But they would have love to. Basically, their plate is filled with many things, and one of the things is music. And also it is so HARD to get into the music business, it takes alot of hard work dealing with all the legal shit, blah, blah. I would have loved form a band and get those guys to my label, write a few songs with them. They is so many unseen, untapped talent is ridiculous dude. It really is.

[Severity]

Did you really have to say that? Its only going to make things worse. Each to there own. So respect it.

[mysterytom]

Christ man, its like being back in school. :p

I've heard the two new, new songs twice now and havent had a chance to listen to them really fucking loud yet, so am not totaly sure as to if i like them or not. I think i do, so far but will reserve judgement till i've heard them many more times, or when i have the album!

As for the solo's thing. They dont sound forced to me. I really like the solo to inside the horror. Has a different feel to it. A bit of diversity is a good thing in my opinion. Nice work Rob. :)

As for solo's within a song.....i think that Rob (from what i can tell from the DVD etc) writes solo's to add to a song. I guess its similar to what Kirk Hammet did for the solo's on the black album! We all know how much a fan Rob is of that dude/legend.
The solo's for that album added another layer to the songs and it sold huge amounts of copies and turned the band into fucking metal legends. Maybe this album will do the same for chimaira?!?!!?
Personaly i thought the solo's on TIOR were great and fitted the songs anyway, so maybe this is just a refinement? Who knows.

Apparently Rob has been ditching his metallica t shirts live. Maybe he has found his own unique style now? and maybe these new solo's reflect that? Who knows.

I think the guitars have developed interestingly since TIOR and theres a nice techniqual feel to them now. Always good in my opinion. I like the sounds so far and cant wait for the album!

[destroyer_of_senses]

trust me, he has his own style now. future guitar hero in the making/completion.

[mysterytom]

Agreed. Both the guys are well respected. Lets hope that they get shown it. Total Guitar called them the new King and Hanneman.
Thats pretty cool. Got to be happy with that! :)

[Betz]

As for the solo's thing. They dont sound forced to me. I really like the solo to inside the horror. Has a different feel to it. A bit of diversity is a good thing in my opinion. Nice work Rob. :)


Couldn't agree more

And what issue of TG did they say that? Was it the one with the guest lesson?

[mysterytom]

Yeah i think so. Good issue.
The second last issue was pretty good. (the one with KsE video guest lesson) :)
The sweep picking by Mark Tremonti was awesome. Fucking difficult as well.
Maybe we''ll get a video guest lesson from Matt and Rob once the new album comes out. That would be pretty cool.

[mentalrae]

This is not anything new. This just new for Chimaira.
Generic Riffs. Forced Solos which fuck up the dynamic of a song. No wait, theres more, Another breakdown. Whoa! Oh and now death metal drums?
This album so far seems just way to forced.

"You cannot force inspirado"death metal drums? well kevin talley is a death metal drummer having been in dying fetus and misery index!! i havent heard this one yet tho (no bastard soundcard on my pc thanks to my teenage sons tinkering!!!!) cant fucking wait!!!


Can I just say?
What the fuck do you mean by 2 of the 3 solos shouldn't have been there?
What's that all about?
Chimaira wrote a song with that solo....

None of the solos are forced at all...they're part of the songs and the songs fucking rock.



I thought his B-day was on January 5th and I thought he'd be 26 this year.i thought it was the 3rd!! lol

[Betz]

Maybe we''ll get a video guest lesson from Matt and Rob once the new album comes out. That would be pretty cool.
Who knows, maybe Matt or Rob are one of the "7 of the world's hottest guitar players" that are meant to be in Augusts issue, now that would be cool.

[mysterytom]

Haha yeah. But somehow i doubt it! :p

[fuct666]

Agreed. Both the guys are well respected. Lets hope that they get shown it. Total Guitar called them the new King and Hanneman.
Thats pretty cool. Got to be happy with that! :)
I dont think they are at all.

[Malakian105]

Can I just ask something?

I find that too many people always critise new guitarists when they get labled the new '*Insert Legendary guitarist here*'....

It's like bands, people are quick to say 'no way, Chimaira could never be the new Slayer/Metallica etc...'
Why the fuck not?

Are you not forgetting that Metallica/Slayer didn't pick up legendary status because they featured the best guitarists in the world. They picked it up because during their time they were creating music that would have influence on future bands and because they were doing something different than the bands around.
Chimaira are doing both of these.
Who cares If Rob and Matt aren't soloing for 3 hours straight and trying to break the record for the most number of notes and scales they can go through in that time, they are writing solos that will influence future guitar players and solos that have so much meaning and emotion and I think are still pretty awesome. They could write solos like Zakk Wydle but that would be boring. Zakk's a blinding guitar player but his solos lack character and difference between them.
Anyway, I bet you anything you like, these people who are saying his solos are shit/boring, would be the same people who would jump on his back If he was doing solos like Zakk/Metallica/Slayer etc....saying he was 'ripping' them off.....
Leave the guy alone. He must be so proud of this album and his work and Im fucking proud to be as big as fan as I am....
I knew they wouldn't let me down and they haven't....
If you can't appreciate his work and the band's new songs, then I feel sorry for you.

[Ill Dino]

To become the next Slayer/Metallica you'll have to make at least 3 or 4 great albums and be one of the best of the genre. And after that it's still the question whether a band is legendary or not. Why isn't Sepultura legendary? Why is Nirvana legendary? etc. etc.